Rethinking the 2nd Amendment

Don’t worry, I haven’t flipped sides on you guys or anything.  What I’m talking about actually is the article in Slate which looks at the right to keep and bear arms without the 2nd Amendment.  The author does start with the assumption that everything that the anti-gun types say is correct about the 2nd Amendment; and in various places in the article gives the impression that he would support a collective rights view.

However, the author does provide an interesting view of how we could preserve a right to keep and bear arms without the 2nd Amendment.

In addition to the Ninth Amendment, we should also view the right to bear arms through the lens of the 14th Amendment’s command that “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.” Though this particular sentence applies only to the states, other language in the 14th Amendment affirms that the federal government, too, has a parallel obligation to respect the fundamental rights of citizens.

The article is an interesting read, I found myself see-sawing back and forth between agreeing with the author and disagreeing with the author.  For example, I agree with the statement like the above which talks about individual rights protected by the Constitution, however the statement below is one that I would have a hard time agreeing with.

By contrast, if the Second Amendment’s language really did guarantee a right to guns in homes, by what authority could judges allow for a different approach in D.C.? And then, if one has a Second Amendment right to a pistol or shotgun at home, why not a machine gun? Given that the Second Amendment’s core right is military, it would seem odd that military arms would be easier to ban than other weapons.

I disagree that the intent of the 2nd Amendment was for the military, and I disagree that its “core right” has anything to do with militias or the military.

Hence, my issue and see-saw with the article.  I do recommend it, read the whole thing.  It’s a well written piece for certain, and I like the concept of supporting a right to keep and bear arms separate from the 2nd Amendment.  The author does make some excellent points, especially regarding partner laws enacted around the 14th Amendment which specifically addressed the need to keep arms for self-defense.

…a companion statute to the 14th Amendment, enacted by Congress in 1866, declared that “laws … concerning personal liberty [and] personal security … including the constitutional right to bear arms, shall be secured to and enjoyed by all the citizens.”

While I don’t think that the 2nd Amendment represents a military or collective right, I enjoy the academic exercise of supporting the right to keep and bear arms outside of the 2nd Amendment, and I believe that having more than one source to back up our argument is an excellent idea.

The Second Amendments

I saw this at Sebastian’s blog, on a relatively unrelated post.

Republican Rep. Jon Porter, who plays in a congressional band called the Second Amendments but represents a largely suburban Southern Nevada district that is trending Democratic, said as long as those carrying guns are following state law, the proposal “seems reasonable to me.”

Sebastian wants to know who the other members of the band are – Wikipedia is your friend.

The Second Amendments is a bipartisan rock and country band, all of which are members of the United States Congress. It features Representatives Collin Peterson (DFL-Minnesota), on guitar and lead vocals; Thaddeus McCotter (R-Michigan), on lead guitar; Dave Weldon (R-Florida), on bass; Jon Porter (R-Nevada), on keyboards; and Kenny Hulshof (R-Missouri), on drums.

Well, there’s your answer.  Oh, and DFL stands for Democratic Farmer-Labor Party, and is apparently quite the force in Minnesota politics.

Podcast: DC vs. Heller

Check out today’s new episode, where we’re talking about a possible twist in DC vs. Heller, as well as the potential ramifications of a loss in the Heller case.

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You have several options to listen to the weekly podcasts, you can click the embedded flash player above to stream; if streaming sounds odd download it from the flash player, or click this link to download it from iTunes.

The article on Shooting Wire that I referenced is here.

Things that should not be

I was at the Bass Pro Shop in Vegas on Saturday, which is awesome beyond words, by the way; and I saw something that I wish I could unsee.

Bass Pro has something called a “Fine Gun Room”, where they have a lot of gorgeous double rifles, shotgusn, classic pistols, and other guns for sale.  For someone who is into the classics, blue steel and fine wood, it was kind of like being in heaven.  Actually, being in a giant outdoor shop that was attached to a western themed casino and restaraunt was like going to heaven; but that’s not the point.

In the gun room, I happened upon thing which should not be – someone had taken a minty-ish Trapdoor Springfield, cut the barrel down to 18 inches, and then added hi-vis fiber optic sights.  The pictures were taken with my cell phone camera, so they’re not great, but you can see the atrocity of the sights in both pictures.

Other than that gun, Bass Pro is completely awsome.  It’s definitely a place where I’ll be coming when I’m in Las Vegas.

State constitutions

As I mentioned in the podcast, more than a couple states have the individual right to keep and bear arms enshrined in their state constitutions.  I found this excellent reference from Eugene Volokh which details which states have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms in their constitutions, as well as supporting case law behind that.

For some reason, I love Vermont’s.

Vermont:  That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State — and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.

You can view the entire list by clicking this link.

Vegas gun show

I had the opportunity to go the Crossroads of the West gun show at the Cashman Center in Las Vegas this weekend; while I was there it seems that Tamara was at the Indy 1500 show back home.  Having now been to both, I can say that the Crossroads show pales in comparison to the 1500.

In terms of size, it was about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the Indy show, with the accompying reduction in dealers present.  I did find a few C&R steals, so it was probably a good thing for my wallet that I neglected to bring a copy of my FFL with me, so I couldn’t purchase anything other than black powder firearms.  I was actually there looking for a ’60 Colt Army to go with my ’58 Remington, but the only ones they had (all 2) were really overpriced.  I did almost buy a .36 Navy Colt with a brass frame – but I really had my heart set on a .44.

In terms of other guns, there were loads and loads of black rifles/AKs, all of which were going for way over what they had been not 6 months ago (the last time I went to a gun show).  I guess everyone is stocking up for the possibility of an anti-gun presidency, and I don’t blame them.

I did see some stuff that I had never seen before at a gun show.

  1. A Nation of Riflemen T-Shirt from Kim du Toit‘s place.
  2. A guy with literally three cases of Lugers for sale.
  3. Another guy with three cases of Broomhandle Mausers.
  4. A Che Guevara flag.

With regard to that last bit, it sort of threw me for a loop.  It was at the same table as “that guy” who is at every gun show with his flag collection, ranging from Don’t Tread on Me flags, to Nazi SS flags, and apparently a Che Guevara flag.  Not only did it not fit in with the rest of his flags, it didn’t really fit in with the usual crowd that you’d see at a gun show.  Needless to say, flags celebrating communist revolutionary mass murderers are not something I’d expect to see at a gun show.

If I were scoring the difference between my real home city (Indy) and my temporary city (Vegas), in the all important gun show category, Indy would be ahead 1-0.  Honestly, for the 12 bucks it cost me to get in, I honestly didn’t feel like I got my money’s worth.

Countdown to Tuesday

Heller oral arguments are on Tuesday.  If you are a man or woman of faith, then I would exhort you to follow the suggestion of Clayton Cramer.

Pray for Alan Gura, the attorney representing us before the Supreme Court Heller. He is carrying a considerable responsibility, and this is his first case that he will argue before the Supreme Court.

If you’re not a religious person, then do whatever it is that you would do to wish a person good luck and good skill in what will no doubt be a difficult moment.

In other Heller news, I caught a bit of Paul Helmke on Fox News this morning, he was talking with someone whose name I didn’t catch as I only caught the end of the segment regarding the Heller case.  It was pretty much the same old song and dance from Paul, he would talk about “safety”, and “protecting our communities” and “militia” stuff.  Even when the pro-gun chap would refute his points, all Paul would do is repeat exactly what he had just said, but slightly re-worded.

One point that was made by Paul that I wholeheartedly agree with is that the Heller decision, whatever it is will have a great affect on the race for El Presidente.  The candidates will be forced to address the issue, like it or not because we’ve never had a landmark case like this so close to an election.

Answering Diana’s questions

I’m going to do something that I don’t often do, which is create a new post specifically because of the comments to another post.  In the comments to this post, Diana from Virginia had a lot of things to say about homeschooling, not necessarily from a hostile standpoint, but certainly not from the point of view of an ally.  At the end of her comment, she asked several questions about homeschooled kids, which because she was respectful (if misinformed) I wanted to create a new post to answer her.

I don’t worry about socialization with homeschooled children. I do wonder exactly what happens when the bubble wrap comes off though. And it has to, doesn’t it? You can’t control their environment forever, so how does that work?

This question quite incorrectly assumes that parents who choose to homeschool are “bubble-wrapping” their children to protect them from the nasty real world out there.  Speaking from personal experience, I can say that quite often the exact opposite is true – homeschool families are teaching their kids that the world is a nasty place where lots of people don’t want to be your friend.  Honestly, I worry more about kids who are coddled by a school system that doesn’t allow recess and dodgeball because someone’s feelings might get hurt.

Are they the kids that cut loose in college? Are you going to let them go away to school then?

Any overprotected child is going to cut lose in college, whether or not they’ve been homeschooled has very little to do with it.  A child who was constantly sheltered and sent to public school is just as likely to “cut loose” in college as a sheltered homeschooled child.  An overprotective parent is just as unlikely to allow their child to go away to school whether or not they homeschooled.  However, as a personal example, myself and two of my brothers went to college.  The one who stayed the closest to my parents was 1200 miles away.  So yes, we do “go away” to college.

At what age do they get out from under the constant loving scrutiny of their parents?

If I ever reach an age where my parents no longer regard me with love and scrutiny, it will mean that they are dead.  Because I want my parents to scrutinize my actions, even now as I’m an adult.  My parents have lived a lot longer than me, and their scrutiny and wisdom can provide insight on little things from business decisions to marital advice.  I don’t want to be out from their love or scrutiny, because I recognize the value in learning from their experience, even though I am now an adult myself.  I pity the adult who feels that they are too old or too good for their parent’s “scrutiny”.

When do they get to interact with their peers,or for that matter, with anyone else, without the parents around?

I think on a regular basis, when I was 10.  In high school, I could interact with my peers pretty much whenever I wasn’t doing schoolwork, so weekends, at sports practices, church, evenings, like any other high school kid with a car and a driver’s license.

How do they know where they start and their parents end?

I can’t speak for anyone but myself (and possibly my brothers), but I knew because I was raised to be independent.  My parents didn’t raise me to be a little clone of them, they raised me to be my own adult.  My parents “end” with the teaching and wisdom they had imparted to me, and I “start” where I choose to act based on my personal experience and their teaching.

The problem with a lot of your questions is that they could just as easily apply to a child who was mollycoddled by his parents and went to public school.  You’re assuming that because you believe you were a good parent, that only homeschool parents are overprotective and controlling of their children.  I can say with utmost conviction that you’re incorrect; I have had plenty of friends who were overprotected by their parents and went to public school.  When the bubble wrap came off those kids, they had a much harder time adapting than I did.

Donate your old holsters

To support Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.

In partnership with the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC) , TGSCOM Inc. (www.thegunsource.com, www.topglock.com, glockworld.com, xdpistols.com and more) encourages gun owners, gun stores, police officers, manufacturers and concerned citizens to help the SCCC with its planned 2nd Annual Empty Holster Protest during the week April 21st – 25th. This is a great chance to help keep the younger generation involved in our sport and active in defending our Constitutional rights.

I am a big fan of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.  Essentially, they’re running another “empty holster day”, where member students will wear empty holsters openly on their campuses in protest of laws that prevent CCW holders from carrying their legal concealed weapons on college campuses.

Send your holsters to the following address:

Holsters For SCCC
c/o TheGunSource.com
1449 S. Broadway Street
Green Bay, WI 54304