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Yep, somebody’s gonna loose an eye. won’t be me!
I’d agree with the Turbofail comment, but mostly driven by the 17 HMR part.
EAA — horrendous advertising, website and customer service. Some of their guns are reasonably good, though. Witness line is a very solid design. Some of the CZ/SIG-clones are decent pistols as well.
Bullpups — as “the gun of the future”, I agree. They are not the be all end all (e.g., I’m not a bullpup fanboy). That said, bullpups have a place in my mind. My experiences of the last 6 months with my AUG say that they fit the role of a PDW very well (my 16″ AUG is shorter OAL than a 10″ bbl AR15). For everything else, I prefer a traditional rifle config.
Plus, semi-auto rifles in .17 HMR tend to blow up.
Hey, lay off the .17 HMR now!
I’ve got a Ruger 77 in .17 HMR, and it’s as fun a little tack driver as you’d ever want to shoot. I’ve killed everything with it from prairie dogs at 200 yards to 250 pound hogs at 25 yards.
The Ruger 77 is awesome. In bolt action guns, the .17 HMR is a rad idea, because the bolt guns can handle the absurd chamber pressures.
Not so much in auto-chuckers.
Straight blowback + .17 HMR + out of battery = Ouch.
Some of their guns are reasonably good, though. Witness line is a very solid design.
Dear god, no. No no no, just, goddamn, no.
The CZ-75 is a fundamentally solid design. Everything Tanfoglio has done to it over the years is fundamentally dumbass.
EAA, which means someone else makes it. Who?
The Witness line is indeed a Very Solid Design. A Very Solid Czech Design that has been turned into a wretched, pulsating ball of suck thanks to indifferent manufacturing by Tanfoolio.
“The Ruger 77 is awesome. In bolt action guns, the .17 HMR is a rad idea, because the bolt guns can handle the absurd chamber pressures.”
Yep, main reason I didn’t convert my 10/.22 to .17 HMR.
I wonder if the same thing holds true for the .17 Mach 2 (necked down .22 LR)? What kind of pressures does it generate?
Reason I ask, is I have half a dozen .22 LR rifles, and the Ruger is the only one that doesn’t have any sentimental value. Might be a fun little plinker in .17 Mach 2.