1. Not to sound stupid, but I am in this regard:

    Are they using FMJ when shooting steel at these events, or are frangible bullets required?

  2. Technically, “splits” are time between shots; it’s interesting, though, that her longest “splits” are between aquiring the sights but before the first round fired. Forget the draw; once the sights are acquired and the first round fired the time between rounds drops significantly. Like a lot of shooters, getting sight alignment on that first shot is the slowest part of the drill.

    I’ve noticed that on my own times, but haven’t come up with a good method of consistently trimming the “sight alignment to first shot” split. With the 625 (yes, I’m a life-long revolver junkie) that split is pretty close to the other splits. Give me a semi-auto – even the well-tuned 1911 that’s ridden my hip for 20+ years, much less an agency-issued semi – – and that first split isn’t quite as fast as the 625’s.

    I’ve known that for quite a while, because that “sights to first shot” time happens to be of particular importance to me; I may really, really need it to be ASAP someday. Not that it’s at all slow, but it is slower than I’d like it.

    Caleb, it would be interesting to compare the “first splits” to the “other splits” are among top competitors.

  3. Hmm…

    Maybe Caleb and the Idaho Boomershoot guy could compare the best of, say 10 first hits from the draw with ANY weapon of their choice?

    Video tape both shooters and compare hits on a 10″ plate at 15 yds…

    That could be really really cool!

  4. The interesting thing about first hit only is that Huff’s limited gun wouldn’t have any great advantage over Calebs M&P/XDm/Glock/Beretta/38 Super/9MM 1911, err, Caleb, just what ARE you actually shooting again today?

    (I’m sure it’ll be different tomorrow…)


  5. My limited holster would give a slight advantage compared to a “production” holster. Typically it’s on the order of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds.

    If you are only doing “one shot” strings that is a significant advantage. Typical first shots on a USPSA target at that range are about 1.0 seconds for me. 10% to 20% faster for a minor hardware change is very significant.

    A course with lots of running, stopping, and shooting under barricades would give Caleb the advantage because of his youth, physical condition, and significantly lower mass.

    It’s going to be difficult to design a course that doesn’t favor one or the other of us. If I wanted to virtually assure a win for myself I would design a course with something like five USPSA targets at unknown distances between 500 and 1500 yards away. The shooter gets as many shots are there are targets. RO instructions would be “Start in box A with your gun unloaded. Upon start signal shoot them as you see them. One shot each.”

  6. I just watched the video. Are the actual stages times available online someplace? I have shot many of those stages and would like to know how I compare…

  7. Then how about a table start – gun unloaded?

    If unloaded, it is a nice test of valid gun handling. If loaded, it is just a reaction, acquisition and shot placement.

    10 rounds in a mag – first shot on an IDPA paper target 15 yards away. Count your time overall and score via IDPA rules +.5 seconds for every non-A zone hit.

    Hell, that is a decent drill that most of us should be doing anyway!

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