The Sig Nightmare Fastback is now at approximately 1700 rounds, and we’re closing in on the finish line. However, it’s begun to develop an unusual tendency to double feed when using Winchester white box ammo. After some testing, I’ve come to the conclusion that this is likely because the WWB has a shorter OAL than all the other types of ammo I’ve used. The question then is should I count these malfunctions against the gun? I’ve not been able to reproduce them with any other brand of ammo.
Stats: 1,150 rounds fired
1 armorer level fix
5 double-feeds that I’m not sure about counting yet
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This is one I’ve been looking forward to testing for a while, the Sig Sauer 1911 Fastback Nightmare in .357 Sig. Let’s get started with the first evaluation, the 10-8 Performance Function Test
Passed with flying colors, it would seem. In fact, of all the 1911s I’ve had through the test so far (this is the 7th that’s begun the tests) it has the most reliable and consistent ejection pattern yet. Maybe there’s something to be said for that external extractor…
Time for the final review of the Kimber Pro Carry II in 9mm. I actually ended up liking this gun quite a bit, and as a carry gun it has a lot going for it. Final score: 90/100
Here it is, the 2,000th round through the Kimber Pro Carry II in 9mm. I’ll do the full review later, but here’s the final score for the short attention span folks.
- Rounds fired: 2,012
- Failures: 5
- 10-8 Performance Test: Failed, but passed on re-test after break in period
Points Deducted: -5 points for 5 failures, -10 points for failing the 10-8 Test, +5 points back for passing the 10-8 Test on the retest.
Final Score: 90/100
Since I last posted an update, I did manage to fire an additional few hundred rounds through the Kimber Pro Carry II in 9mm.
I didn’t get video of these range trips because I’ve been on a bit of a time crunch lately; however the gun now sits at 1,800 rounds fired. There were no additional failures of any type during the last three range sessions, putting the gun at 5 failures for the duration of the test.
The Kimber is now at 1247 rounds fired. Since completing the 500 round break in period that Kimber recommends, it has shot 747 rounds and experienced one failure to extract. Compare this to the first 500 rounds where it experienced 4 different malfunctions. At least in regards to this gun, perhaps the “break in period” isn’t a myth after all.
For the first 50 rounds I decided to use Browning’s Practice/Target ammo in 230 grain. I know that Bill Wilson is on record stating the smaller 1911’s run better with lighter bullets, preferably 185 grain. I plan on trying some of them but these were what I had available.
So how did it do? Not good. Not good at all. Literally every three rounds, for the first 36 rounds, the slide locked back. In the photos to the left you can see where the slide stop just barely caught the slide. I tried using a different grip, even trying strong hand only once. It didn’t make a difference. This thing would simply discharge three rounds then lock the slide back. The problem could be the slide stop, or it could be mag related. I haven’t investigated it, nor do I plan too; at least until I have put a total of 400 rounds through the gun.
In fairness, following the 36 round malfunction fest, the remaining 14 rounds cycled and shot fine. I ran two seven round mag dumps trying to get it to malfunction again. This is obviously not a long-term test scenario, and I would have loved to continue, but there was a serious lightning storm moving in. Here at Gun Nuts we go too great pains to avoid death by lightning strike.
An annoyance that was discovered revolved around the safety. It clicks off and on as a nice 1911 should, but it overhangs the frame ever so slightly. I never noticed it prior to shooting the gun, but once I had some rounds down range the web of my hand started to blister. I have seen this on many other 1911’s and it isn’t the end of the world; but at the same time, this is not a $500 RIA! I expect better when dropping north of $1000 on a pistol! If I keep the gun after the testing than I’ll correct the issue using my best home gunsmith skills. Until then I’ll deal with it with either gloves or raw ignorance.
The final unexpected issue centered on the sights. (see what I did there) I shot at 7, 10 and 15 yards and no matter the distance the sights hit low – really low. It grouped nicely though but at least 3 inches below my point-of-aim. Given my statement above concerning 185 grain ammo being recommended for small 1911’s I find myself hoping DW installed sights regulated to lighter ammo. I am looking for some 185 grain I can test this theory.
As expected the recoil was snappy, but not the end of the world. You definitely want to have a good grip on the gun though.
With a little luck I can run some more ammo through it soon. Will it continue to malfunction? Will it eat my hand? Will it hit POI/POA with 185 grain ammo?
Stay tuned as we find out.
I have a real love/hate relationship with one of the standard tests I do as part of our 1911 tests, and that’s the 100 round challenge. Shooting 100 rounds rapid fire in ~60 seconds isn’t actually that pleasant, but I keep doing it because it keeps revealing interesting data about the guns we test.
Earlier this week I started a long-term review of a Dan Wesson ECO, which is a 3.5 inch Officer’s sized 1911. Lest anyone think its reliability will be a gimme, I offer the following video from Rob Pincus. I don’t know Rob, and I don’t agree with everything he writes, but based off my personal experience he is correct.
Yes, the gun in the video is a Kimber, but that is irrelevant. Small 1911’s are generally finicky. In fact, I fully expect the ECO will fail at some point. And if it does, I have a couple of things in my bag of tricks that might help reliability.
Did you see the challenge at the end of the video? I don’t know if Rob is still offering this, but if the ECO kicks ass, maybe I could take him up on the offer – not likely.
In the end, I hope the ECO stuns me with utter reliability, but if it fails, I will not be shocked in any way. It is the nature of the beast.
So… do you have a small 1911 that has been flawless? Let us know. Please include the total cumulative round count, as well as the maximum round count you shot in one session.
And for those that care, I finally got around to buying some ammo so testing will start tomorrow!